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I have suddenly become stunningly intolerant of any fiction which involves people failing to have a relationship because they are too scared/dumb to tell the other person what they actually want.

I did not used to be like this. I wonder what changed?

R

Date: 2013-06-06 04:19 pm (UTC)
sheramil: Jack Vance alien by Phillipe Caza (Default)
From: [personal profile] sheramil
you got older.

i think that initially we are inclined to give people some slack, in the belief they'll grow out of whatever they're doing that irks. when they don't...

Date: 2013-06-07 03:40 pm (UTC)
pauamma: Cartooney crab wearing hot pink and acid green facemask holding drink with straw (Default)
From: [personal profile] pauamma
Yer not old. Now get offa my lawn. *shake cane at you*

Date: 2013-06-08 10:00 am (UTC)
acelightning: photo of me (mugshot)
From: [personal profile] acelightning
i'm 65. so there.

Date: 2013-06-08 12:15 pm (UTC)
pauamma: Cartooney crab wearing hot pink and acid green facemask holding drink with straw (Default)
From: [personal profile] pauamma
I only said that so jeshyr could answer their question, not to start a contest with other commenters.

Date: 2013-06-08 12:55 pm (UTC)
pauamma: Cartooney crab wearing hot pink and acid green facemask holding drink with straw (Default)
From: [personal profile] pauamma
Wise? Them's fighting words, podner.

Date: 2013-06-08 02:51 pm (UTC)
acelightning: charcoal sketch of a bunny curled up asleep, in soft purple twilight (sleeping bunny)
From: [personal profile] acelightning
i'm sorry - i left off the smilie.

i never had any intention of turning it into a contest; i meant the "so there" in the spirit of "you darn kids, turn that noise you call 'music' down!" and other humorous cliches of old-fart-hood. instead, i've managed to irritate you, embarrass [personal profile] sheramil, and probably upset ricky :-(

i apologize to everybody...

Date: 2013-06-10 05:53 am (UTC)
sheramil: Jack Vance alien by Phillipe Caza (Default)
From: [personal profile] sheramil
> embarrass [personal profile] sheramil,


only thing that embarrasses me is knowing there's a mirror of my old website out there with some goddess-awful stories on it.

Date: 2013-06-10 12:17 pm (UTC)
acelightning: cartoon me in front of desktop computer (at computer)
From: [personal profile] acelightning
and some goddess-blessed good ones, too. (and the ones i contributed to, as long as we're being embarrassed...)

Date: 2013-06-10 08:51 am (UTC)
pauamma: Cartooney crab wearing hot pink and acid green facemask holding drink with straw (Default)
From: [personal profile] pauamma
No offence taken.

Date: 2013-06-10 12:19 pm (UTC)
acelightning: adorable little bunny blinking adorably (bunnyblink)
From: [personal profile] acelightning
thank you - i'm very glad to hear that!

Date: 2013-06-10 05:51 am (UTC)
sheramil: Jack Vance alien by Phillipe Caza (Default)
From: [personal profile] sheramil
you win by a few months.

Date: 2013-06-06 05:15 pm (UTC)
niqaeli: cat with arizona flag in the background (Default)
From: [personal profile] niqaeli
Fiction is usually my escapism place. I get enough of that shit in real life; I don't need fictional characters failing it up also, you know?

I mean, you know. that may not be your problem. But it's why my tolerance for that has gotten lower over the years.

Date: 2013-06-07 04:05 am (UTC)
acelightning: heart in the shape of a thorny rose (goth heart)
From: [personal profile] acelightning
i've always found that particular "romance" trope, and others like it, extremely annoying. in addition to "one is embarrassed/afraid to speak to the other", there's "each one thinks the other doesn't like them", and "one feels hopelessly inferior to the other and infers that no relationship is possible", and, of course, the old favorite "mistaken identity" trope.these are the main plot devices in almost all "romantic" fiction, particularly comedy. Shakespeare based quite a few of his plays on them, and they're equally ubiquitous in today's movie and TV "rom-coms".

none of this has ever made any sense to me. why don't they just say how they feel? (although i do understand a reluctance based on fear of rejection - but, hey, nothing ventured, nothing gained!) i just never managed to grok complicated courtship rituals. but, "i like you a lot, i'm very attracted to you, i'd like to have sex with you, i think i'm falling in love with you," didn't work the way i expected it to :-(

(nevertheless, you were perfectly right in talking me out of buying the velvet underpants.)

Date: 2013-06-08 09:09 am (UTC)
acelightning: bookcase full of books (books)
From: [personal profile] acelightning
i used to put up with a little of that nonsense if the rest of the story was interesting enough, but by and large i just never bothered with either "romances" or "comedies". as [personal profile] niqaeli said, i see far too many people behaving stupidly in real life - i don't need it in my escapist fiction.

i'm older than [personal profile] sheramil (i'm technically old enough to be his mother) so i'm probably older than any of your other friends here. want me to lecture [personal profile] sheramil for you about anything? :-)

Date: 2013-06-08 09:58 am (UTC)
acelightning: antique world globe with focus on Australia (aussieglobe)
From: [personal profile] acelightning
hey, [personal profile] sheramil! there's a penguin over here who'd like a moment of your attention!
:-D
Edited (it's my keyboard's fault) Date: 2013-06-08 02:52 pm (UTC)

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